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Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:03 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
jcapriotti wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:45 pm
mike miller wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:41 pm
Question for those who think ZTG exists:
Can a light beam pass through a ZTG area?
Yes or no?
I'll answer your question with a question. Is Schrödinger's cat dead or alive?
. . . or one for us simple-minded non-engineers. Where was the man when he jumped off the bridge?
On the bridge? No, that was before he jumped.
Okay, he was in the air. No, that was after he jumped.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 8:43 pm
by Steen Winther
mike miller wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:21 pm
This is a classic example of ZTG.
2021-03-29 20_18_52.jpg
@matt There may be an issue with this page because most images are blank except this one which shows up as an abstract painting....!
It is actually quite pretty
File-corruption on the server???
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:20 pm
by Steen Winther
What bothers me is that I can create two individual bodies without issues, but I can't merge them into one body:
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:26 pm
by matt
Steen Winther wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 8:43 pm
@matt There may be an issue with this page because most images are blank except this one which shows up as an abstract painting....!
It is actually quite pretty
File-corruption on the server???
Yeah, this was an old issue we had early on. I'm getting those cleaned up.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:24 am
by MJuric
Steen Winther wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 9:20 pm
What bothers me is that I can create two individual bodies without issues, but I can't merge them into one body:
Which illustrates why this is more of a software coding issue than it is a theoretical impossibility issue. It's nothing more than deciding how you want to deal with the numbers, make it a gap or make it material. Making it a gap or boundary makes the most sense. Two parts put together with a boundary with zero space between would be the same as "Zero thickness" where a boundary was placed at the point of the ZTG.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:30 pm
by Uncle_Hairball
Think about the term zero-thickness.
Q: What is another way of describing zero-thickness geometry?
A: Hole
In other words, zero-thickness geometry is an oxymoron, which says nothing about CAD functionality. There are good reasons why we spend so much time pleading for this functionality, but the concept is nonsense.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:46 pm
by Ömür Tokman
Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:03 pm
. . . or one for us simple-minded non-engineers. Where was the man when he jumped off the bridge?
On the bridge? No, that was before he jumped.
Okay, he was in the air. No, that was after he jumped.
I feel my brain on fire.
So what about Mike's situation now.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:49 pm
by Ömür Tokman
Steen Winther wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 8:43 pm
@matt There may be an issue with this page because most images are blank except this one which shows up as an abstract painting....!
It is actually quite pretty
File-corruption on the server???
I thought it was one of John's Pictures.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:54 pm
by Ömür Tokman
Rob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:37 pm
This conversation reminds me of post match pints in the pub.
If anyone was discussing if it was offside, or a red card, etc? my mate JohnJohn would shut them down.
It obviously [WAS|WASN'T] offside because that's the decision of the referee.
The question is moot. No matter your opinion - the parasolid kernel says it doesn't exist.
Can a plugin be written for this? so a trick to disable this feature.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 2:50 pm
by Tom G
Yes, but not in this application.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_wire
Carbon Nanotubes are one molecule wide. Atomized silver can be absorbed into a carbon nanotube to create a 1-atom wide nanowire, as accidentally discovered two months ago by university researchers. These 1D wires are intended for use in nanoarrays.
1-dimensional objects do exist, and you can google that term for lots more than you probably care to understand. That fact is irrelevant to CAD design, as it is
not intended to apply to a quantum scale.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 3:59 pm
by Frederick_Law
Ömür Tokman wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 12:54 pm
Can a plugin be written for this? so a trick to disable this feature.
Yes, a plugin to start Inventor and shut down SW.
Re: Does Zero-Thickness-Geometry exist?
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:14 am
by Frederick_Law
ZTG created in SW 2021
I cannot share the SW file. I saved it as X_T. SW will complain if you run import diagnostic.