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AlexLachance wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:00 am Welcome to CADForum and the gang!

Hopefully you will learn, grow and eventually be able to even contribute to help others!

Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:29 am Welcome. What software do you use, and in what kind of industry?

AllexDee wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:32 am I'm using Solidworks 2020 (not by choice) and working in the agricultural machinery manufacturing industry (engineering)

What about yourself?

Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:50 pm I've been using Solidworks since 2009, making models and then drawings used to build the stuff shown in the videos below.

jcapriotti wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:53 pm This just tells me that we need to put the cab in the rear of the truck.....yikes.

Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:50 pm I've been using Solidworks since 2009, making models and then drawings used to build the stuff shown in the videos below.

You said not by choice. What part, Solidworks itself, or version 2020?

AllexDee wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:10 am Well, I don't hate solid works but it's my first CAD software, I've seen others like fusion360 and some others, not a big fan of the interface SW offers.
I've used 3D software in the past like Autodesk 3Ds max that's how started my Digital 3D experience.

2020 was my first version so hoping 2022 is a little better but work doesn't want to upgrade just yet, if at all.

SPerman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:45 am What is it you don't like about 2020? Is there a specific feature that is giving you problems?

SPerman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:07 pm I want to know the specs on the u shaped pole. The truck hits it and self destructs, while it barely moves at all.

AllexDee wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:01 am Something I've found hard but maybe it's just me not being proficient in the software yet is Mating, simple mates I find no problems but when mating to a curved surface it makes me punch the screen.

I'm sure there is more but cant think of any more from the top of my head.

SPerman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:05 am From what little time I've spent in Fusion 360, it handles mating completely differently than SW.

AllexDee wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:28 am Good Afternoon Everyone, Alex Here from the UK, Happy I found somewhere I can learn and ask questions about problems I'm having with my CAD software I hope to learn and grow. I will add a photo soon to my profile.

See you deep down in the comment section

Alex

SPerman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:13 am This was a few years ago. Things might have changed, or my faulty memory may be at play.

Let's say you want to constrain this fastener to this panel.

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In solidworks I would pick the face of the panel, and the underhead of the bolt and create a coincidence mate. Then I would select the cylinder of the hole and the cylinder of the bolt and create a concentric mate.


In F360 you would select the edge of the hole in the panel, and then the edge of the underhead of the bolt. The software would create both the face to face and concentric mates based on this selection.

(I had a bunch of screenshots in this post, but the forum and I weren't getting along, so I had to start over and didn't take the time to recreate them.)

SPerman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:13 am This was a few years ago. Things might have changed, or my faulty memory may be at play.

Let's say you want to constrain this fastener to this panel.

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In solidworks I would pick the face of the panel, and the underhead of the bolt and create a coincidence mate. Then I would select the cylinder of the hole and the cylinder of the bolt and create a concentric mate.


In F360 you would select the edge of the hole in the panel, and then the edge of the underhead of the bolt. The software would create both the face to face and concentric mates based on this selection.

(I had a bunch of screenshots in this post, but the forum and I weren't getting along, so I had to start over and didn't take the time to recreate them.)

Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:32 am There are at least three ways to do something very similar in SW.

1. Set your bolt up with a Mate Reference. When you drag and drop it into an Assembly you can drop it so that concentric and coincident mates are applied (first screenshot). It takes a little practice to get the hang of it, but it works very well.

2. Grab the edge of the bolt, hold down Alt, and drag it close to the hole (second screenshot). Again, it takes a little practice, but you can drop it so that coincident and concentric mates are applied. It helps if you rotate the components so you can see both edges before first.

3. And then there's my favorite method. Ctrl+select the two edges and apply a Profile Center mate (third screenshot). You can also lock rotation on it, or leave it free to rotate. Of course you can also apply it with the Mate property manager open so you don't need to Ctrl+select them, but Quick Mates is one of those enhancements I resisted for a year or two, but now use often.


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Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:32 am There are at least three ways to do something very similar in SW.

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:59 am I honestly try and avoid Advanced Mates as much as possible. Not that they cause issues or anything, but they are named Advanced Mates for a reason, they tend to take more time for the program to calculate. If you end up having a huge assembly, it becomes somewhat noticeable.

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:59 am I honestly try and avoid Advanced Mates as much as possible. Not that they cause issues or anything, but they are named Advanced Mates for a reason, they tend to take more time for the program to calculate. If you end up having a huge assembly, it becomes somewhat noticeable.

Ömür Tokman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:08 am Frankly, I had never noticed it.
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I don't prefer drag-and-drop mate because mostly the bolts are associated in the opposite position.

jcapriotti wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:19 pm We use "Symmetric" and "Width" mates a lot. Kind of hate that they are under "Advanced", I view them as normal mate options.

Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:52 pm I had the same problem with a few of my models. It turned out that when I (or whoever) modeled them the head and shaft were two bodies. When I combined them into a single body that problem went away.

Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:52 pm I had the same problem with a few of my models. It turned out that when I (or whoever) modeled them the head and shaft were two bodies. When I combined them into a single body that problem went away.

Ömür Tokman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:39 pm I usually draw the bolts, screws etc, with the revolve command and it is a single body, the mate is 90% inverted. but tomorrow I will examine what you said, maybe there is an error I missed. Thank you for this information, Uncle.

Ömür Tokman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:47 am Hey Uncle this was a very quick start to teach.
A classic texan, whoever's the fastest wins.
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