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CAD Forum • Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format
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Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:48 pm
by axlebeans
Hello everyone,
I've been trying to balloon some dimensions for our inspection sheets, and I would like them to be red. The way I find easiest to do this is to make one red and then paint the format to all the other balloons. However, when I try paint the format to a balloon within the square of a drawing view, the color does not change. The strange part is I go into the line color settings for the individual balloons and the non-red ones show their color as red. Is there something i'm missing? If there's an easier solution or an easier way to color all these some input would be much appreciated.
Thank you!

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:59 pm
by AlexLachance
axlebeans wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:48 pm Hello everyone,
I've been trying to balloon some dimensions for our inspection sheets, and I would like them to be red. The way I find easiest to do this is to make one red and then paint the format to all the other balloons. However, when I try paint the format to a balloon within the square of a drawing view, the color does not change. The strange part is I go into the line color settings for the individual balloons and the non-red ones show their color as red. Is there something i'm missing? If there's an easier solution or an easier way to color all these some input would be much appreciated.
Thank you!
Have you tried CTRL+R or CTRL+Q afterwards? Sounds like something that's been 95% implemented. Try modifying anything inside it to see if it changes color, like add a REF. to the dimension or something

I've never done something like this but the way you proceed would be the way that I would proceed also. You could perhaps make a note style? Maybe that could do the trick?

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:19 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
I'd suggest using Layers. Set up a Layer that's red, apply it to one dimension, and save it as a Style (as @AlexLachance suggested. That will (or at least should) allow you to apply this Style to new or existing dimensions.

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:43 pm
by axlebeans
I appreciate the replies and will look into setting up layers and a style for this. My solution now is to place all the balloons outside of drawing views, paint the format for the color, and then move them into place after the fact. This is so far my only work around i've had work, so it must be interacting with the drawing views weirdly.

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:49 pm
by AlexLachance
axlebeans wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:43 pm I appreciate the replies and will look into setting up layers and a style for this. My solution now is to place all the balloons outside of drawing views, paint the format for the color, and then move them into place after the fact. This is so far my only work around i've had work, so it must be interacting with the drawing views weirdly.
Could you provide some screens axle? It sounds like we might be speaking of different things when refering to balloons.

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:10 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
AlexLachance wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:49 pm
axlebeans wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:43 pm I appreciate the replies and will look into setting up layers and a style for this. My solution now is to place all the balloons outside of drawing views, paint the format for the color, and then move them into place after the fact. This is so far my only work around i've had work, so it must be interacting with the drawing views weirdly.
Could you provide some screens axle? It sounds like we might be speaking of different things when refering to balloons.
He referred to balloons in dimensions, so I assume this is what he meant.

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Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:13 pm
by AlexLachance
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:10 pmHe referred to balloons in dimensions, so I assume this is what he meant.

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It is also what I believe he was refering to at first, but his latest reply saying that he places balloons outside of drawing views, paints them and then move them in place makes me think that he's doing another methodology, maybe even drawing his own 'balloons'

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:42 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
AlexLachance wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:13 pm
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:10 pmHe referred to balloons in dimensions, so I assume this is what he meant.

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It is also what I believe he was refering to at first, but his latest reply saying that he places balloons outside of drawing views, paints them and then move them in place makes me think that he's doing another methodology, maybe even drawing his own 'balloons'
I see what you mean. Now I'm really confused.

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 pm
by axlebeans
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hopefully this clears things up. The balloons in question come from the Balloon command under my Annotation tab. I think they're used for BOM usually but we use them to help clear up which dimension is associated to which on the inspection sheet. They seem to act like a normal circular note but I believe it has more linkage to custom properties and when used with a BOM can pull all the balloons into that. I just use them like notes though.

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 pm
by AlexLachance
axlebeans wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 pm image.png hopefully this clears things up. The balloons in question come from the Balloon command under my Annotation tab. I think they're used for BOM usually but we use them to help clear up which dimension is associated to which on the inspection sheet. They seem to act like a normal circular note but I believe it has more linkage to custom properties and when used with a BOM can pull all the balloons into that. I just use them like notes though.
Oh, you're refering to part numbering balloons and not dimension balloons or revision balloons.

In that case, pre-created annotations or notestyles would be your best options. We use a somewhat similar thing to call out assembly configurations on certain cases.

Here's an example, while it's not a balloon it's an underlined text attached to the balloons
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Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:20 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
axlebeans wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 pm image.png hopefully this clears things up. The balloons in question come from the Balloon command under my Annotation tab. I think they're used for BOM usually but we use them to help clear up which dimension is associated to which on the inspection sheet. They seem to act like a normal circular note but I believe it has more linkage to custom properties and when used with a BOM can pull all the balloons into that. I just use them like notes though.

I seem to remember that someone at the old forum posted a method for changing the color of text inserted into a dimension. I'm not sure, but I think it was @josh. Maybe there's some code to use to put a circle around just the added text and not the dimension? That would allow having all this in one annotation like you want.

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:03 am
by AlexLachance
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:20 pm
axlebeans wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 pm image.png hopefully this clears things up. The balloons in question come from the Balloon command under my Annotation tab. I think they're used for BOM usually but we use them to help clear up which dimension is associated to which on the inspection sheet. They seem to act like a normal circular note but I believe it has more linkage to custom properties and when used with a BOM can pull all the balloons into that. I just use them like notes though.

I seem to remember that someone at the old forum posted a method for changing the color of text inserted into a dimension. I'm not sure, but I think it was @josh. Maybe there's some code to use to put a circle around just the added text and not the dimension? That would allow having all this in one annotation like you want.
It's not text within the dimension, it's a balloon created with information put into it and then set to a specific color. Saved Annotation/Notestyles will achieve what he wants

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:46 am
by Glenn Schroeder
AlexLachance wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:03 am
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:20 pm
axlebeans wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 pm image.png hopefully this clears things up. The balloons in question come from the Balloon command under my Annotation tab. I think they're used for BOM usually but we use them to help clear up which dimension is associated to which on the inspection sheet. They seem to act like a normal circular note but I believe it has more linkage to custom properties and when used with a BOM can pull all the balloons into that. I just use them like notes though.

I seem to remember that someone at the old forum posted a method for changing the color of text inserted into a dimension. I'm not sure, but I think it was @josh. Maybe there's some code to use to put a circle around just the added text and not the dimension? That would allow having all this in one annotation like you want.
It's not text within the dimension, it's a balloon created with information put into it and then set to a specific color. Saved Annotation/Notestyles will achieve what he wants
Not if he wants in a dimension, unless I'm mistaken.

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:01 am
by AlexLachance
You are correct on that, sir!

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:07 am
by jcapriotti
  1. Create a layer for these with the color set in your templates.
  2. Create a note and turn on the circular border.
  3. Put the note on the new layer.
  4. Right click the note and "Add to library"
  5. Put into a user shared library on your network or PDM if you have it.
  6. Drag the note in and edit the value as needed.
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Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:09 am
by Roasted By John
Good one @jcapriotti Post that in the Tips/Tricks thread

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:14 am
by axlebeans
jcapriotti wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:07 am
  1. Create a layer for these with the color set in your templates.
  2. Create a note and turn on the circular border.
  3. Put the note on the new layer.
  4. Right click the note and "Add to library"
  5. Put into a user shared library on your network or PDM if you have it.
  6. Drag the note in and edit the value as needed.
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Legend! Been pulling my hair out about trying to figure out these layers. Definitely need more practice on the drawing side

Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:25 am
by Merovingien
using a block, is not a "tips and tricks" feature, just a very standard feature, to me.

another solution :
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Re: Balloons within drawing view not accepting painted format

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:26 am
by axlebeans
Merovingien wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:25 am using a block, is not a "tips and tricks" feature, just a very standard feature, to me.

another solution :

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This is also a good trick for me. I should mention i'm still within my first few months of using solidworks, so standard features tend to blow my mind sometimes.